Before I begin this message, I just want to tell you ANA that information about the plight of Afghanistan women can be found be going to www.now.org or by clicking the link contained with this message. Now on to 'Anonymous'... Listen, anonymous. Everyone else has verbally abused you thoroughly, and they all made good points, mainly: Why in the hell would you put down someone for caring? Sheesh. And then you go on to say how ignorant someone is for not knowing about it. Guess what? It's not in the news everyday. I want you to reply to this and tell me which of the following news stories you have not heard about or if you've seen them all: Have you seen stories about... ...Abu Jamal? ...the ebola virus? ...A man who claims he is the second coming? ...The war over religion in Ireland? ...The hostile takeover of a French Foreign Embassy building? Please reply so that I may further make my point.
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 19:33:46 (EST)
Poster: Dave <##> [email protected]
To: Everyone
Subject: Spool Forka Dish
Message:
I bought "anavoog.com" at the end of December and loved it! Is there any chance the last Blue Up? album, "Spool Forka Dish," will be reissued (if that's the right word)? The very fact that the album sold out seems to make a compelling argument for producing more copies. Plus, the creation of the cam two years after the album was released suggests that there might a whole new market for it. I'm convinced, but I'm obviously not a record company executive. Does living in the Twin Cities make it any more likely that I'll find a copy? Does anybody have any leads on where I could look? P.S. Last weekend I played a couple songs off "anavoog.com" for a friend and she decided to go out and buy a copy! Too bad I'm not getting a commission. P.P.S. Did folks know that Radio K (770 AM), the U of M college station, in its "Top 77 Releases of 1995" (the 77 Top Releases of 1995 as voted by Radio K listeners) picked "Spool Forka Dish" as number 11. If you want to see the whole list, go to: http://www.cee.umn.edu:80/radiok/music/95Top77.html
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 19:14:22 (EST)
Poster: pd <##>
To: Hill
Subject: Re: Re: Re: My lies <##>Re: My lies
Message:
"sometimes a cigar is just a cigar" Gurtrude Stein
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 18:34:18 (EST)
Poster: morgaine <##>
To: goofygrape
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: something for friday <##>Re: thanks DK
Message:
What a fun page! I didn't have time to look at all the pictures, but the KISS stuff is great! I bookmarked it for later :)
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 18:25:02 (EST)
Poster: morgaine <##>
To: Boris
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Attitude <##>Re: Attitude
Message:
{{{{{}}}} <-- girly hug [[]] <-- manly hug :) to bad you can't convey the back slapping part with emoticons
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 18:03:21 (EST)
Poster: Anyone <##>
To: imp
Subject: Re: for those in the moment <##>Re: for those in the moment
Message:
You sound like the basic model of silly little girl.
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 17:49:20 (EST)
Poster: reply <##>
To: imp
Subject: Re: for those in the moment <##>Re: for those in the moment
Message:
Looks like the pepper is a good place for ALL OF YOUR POSTS.
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 17:02:09 (EST)
Poster: imp <##>
To: Everyone
Subject: for those in the moment
Message:
jenni-ana ballet! :) (arm at same angle) for people interested in my personality and what runs thru this melon that seems to be a head, try http://www.treknet.is/saemund/wwwboard/wwwboard.htm cheerz
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 16:42:16 (EST)
Poster: unknown <##>
To: Moshed
Subject: Re: Re: Re: What Problem?<##>Re: What Problem?
Message:
Yes, I am corrupted by the sight of women who are not my wife. Maybe you should stay inside -
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 16:39:17 (EST)
Poster: reply <##>
To: Moshed
Subject: Re: What Problem?<##>Re: What Problem?
Message:
Women should be covered up so that men's passions are not inflamed and then lead them away from the true path of Islam. "Man acts from motives relative to his interests; and not on metaphysical speculations" Edmund Burke
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 16:39:10 (EST)
Poster: Ralph <##>
To: cydniey
Subject: Re: Re: What Problem? <##>Re: What Problem?
Message:
That is the problem...he made women tooooo beautiful...we can stand it....we want it so bad we go nuts and cry and then die from being overwelmed. I love women....even the ones who KNOW they are fine.
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 16:33:22 (EST)
Poster: Ralph <##>
To: asterisk
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Attitude <##>Re: Attitude
Message:
Ummmm...We already finished that there asterisk...(checks dead horse for pulse)....yep...all done.
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 16:20:19 (EST)
Poster: cydniey <##>
To: Moshed
Subject: Re: What Problem? <##>Re: What Problem?
Message:
your passion is not my problem buddy. nor is it the problem of any other woman on this planet. it is your problem and if you are so weak you cannot look at another woman and remain in control you need to kill yourself and stop suffering your responsibility on people who have nothing to do with you. if god had intentionally made man so weak he would not have made woman so beautiful. or are you suggesting that god made a mistake?
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 16:05:56 (EST)
Poster: fetik3 <##>
To: Boris
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Attitude <##>Re: Attitude
Message:
LOL :)
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 15:43:21 (EST)
Poster: asterisk <##>
To: fetik3
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Attitude <##>Re: Attitude
Message:
Fetik3 I agree with what you wrote here wholeheartedly!!! OMG motivation? I don't think so.
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 15:35:48 (EST)
Poster: Boris <##>
To: Ralph
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Attitude <##>Re: Attitude
Message:
Ahem, well ok. Morgaine promotes hugging as healthy. Big manly hug, as Boris pats Ralphs cute bottom.
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 15:32:45 (EST)
Poster: anthony <##>
To: Hill
Subject: Re: Re: Re: My lies <##>Re: My lies
Message:
and the farmer said "OK, but don't mess with my snout-faced swine." The salesman agreed, and settled in for the night.
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 15:32:16 (EST)
Poster: Ralph <##>
To: Boris the Spider
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Attitude <##>Re: Attitude
Message:
No..no...kinda like a football after the touchdown type hug ya know? No gay here.....not that there's anything wrong with that.
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 15:30:52 (EST)
Poster: anthony <##>
To: lord dunsany
Subject: Re: the lonely idol <##>Re: the lonely idol
Message:
That reminds me of the story of this traveling salesman who's car broke down in the country. So he askes a farmer if he can spend the night in the barn, and ...
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 15:22:35 (EST)
Poster: Boris the Spider <##>
To: Ralph
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Attitude <##>Re: Attitude
Message:
Calm down Ralph, Fetik was the one who likes you. :) Boris doesn't hug unless your name is really Miss Ralph.
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 15:21:50 (EST)
Poster: lord dunsany <##>
To: Everyone
Subject: the lonely idol
Message:
I had from a friend an old outlandish stone, a little swine-faced idol to whom no one prayed And when I saw his meloncholy case as he sat cross-legged at receirt of prayer, holding a little scourge that the years had broken (and no one heeded the scourge and no one prayed; and he had been a god), then I took pity on the little forgotten thing and prayed to it as perhaps they prayed long since, before the coming of the strange dark ships, and humbled myself and said: "O idol, idol of the hard pale stone, invincible to the years, O scourge-holder, give ear for behold I pray. "o little pale-green image whose wanderings are from far, know thou that too soon there pass from us the sweets and song and the lion strength of youth: too soon do our cheeks fade, our hair grow grey and our beloved die; too brittle is beauty, too far off is fame and the years are gathered too soon; there are leaves, leaves falling, everywhere falling; there is autumn among us, autumn and reaping; failure there is, struggle, dying and weeping, and all that is beautiful hath not remained but is even as the glory of morning upon the water. "Even our memories are gathered too with the sound of the ancient voices, the pleasant ancient voices that come to our ears no more; the very gardens of our childhood fade, and there dims with the speed of the years even the mind's own eye. "O be not any more the friend of Time, for the silent hurry of it's malevolent feet have trodden down what's fairest; I almost hear the whimper of the years runnig behind us hound-like, and it takes few to tear us. "All that is beautiful is crushed down as a big man tramples daisies, all that is fairest. How very fair are the little children of us. It is autumn with all the world, and the stars weep to see it. "Therefore no longer be the friend of Time, who will not let us be, and be not good to Time but pity us, and let lovely things live on for the sake of our tears." Thus prayed I out of compassion one windy day to the snout-faced idol to whom no one kneeled.
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 15:15:21 (EST)
Poster: Ralph <##>
To: Boris the Spider
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Attitude <##>Re: Attitude
Message:
And 1 more note...I ment that OMG was to be thanked ONLY if he angered us to the point of extra motivation where the motivation resulted in doing more than we would have. Now you guys come here and give me a group hug..
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 15:11:53 (EST)
Poster: Concerned <##>
To: Moshed
Subject: Re: Re: Re: What Problem? <##>Re: What Problem?
Message:
Yes, I am corrupted by the sight of women who are not my wife. Did you know that ALL women are inflamed by the sight of men who are not their husbands? Perhaps you should cover up all of your skin also?
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 15:05:10 (EST)
Poster: Hill <##>
To: Bill
Subject: Re: Re: My lies <##>Re: My lies
Message:
"The American people are tired of liars and people who pretend to be something they're not." - Hillary R. Clinton, 1992.
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 15:03:10 (EST)
Poster: Bill <##>
To: Bill
Subject: Re: My lies <##>Re: My lies
Message:
"The road to tyranny, we must never forget, begins with the destruction of the truth." - Bill Clinton, 1995.
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 14:56:51 (EST)
Poster: Boris the Spider <##>
To: fetik3
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Attitude <##>Re: Attitude
Message:
Well don't get mushy about it!! You'll give Ralph goose-bumps. Peace and Tolerance. PS I like the white background on the cam best.
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 14:45:24 (EST)
Poster: fetik3 <##>
To: fetik3
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Attitude <##>Re: Attitude
Message:
BUT even with that said, I like Ralph and appreciate his ability to express his view point without being childish.
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 14:43:45 (EST)
Poster: fetik3 <##>
To: Boris the Spider
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Attitude <##>Re: Attitude II
Message:
I completely agree :)
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 14:43:12 (EST)
Poster: fetik3 <##>
To: Boris the Spider
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Attitude <##>Re: Attitude
Message:
I guess I'm not able to see the difference. You disagree with what OMG is saying, but agree with Ralph who is essentially saying "OMG is right"? Granted Ralph expressed the same view point without the condescending tone of OMG, but the point is still the same: "You need to get off your ass and do something, and once you do you have people like OMG to thank for it". I agree that for a political movement/change to occur, action needs to be a part of the entire picture (awareness being as important as action in my opinion). But from my experience, people that cop that type of attitude, as was displayed by OMG, did NOTHING to motivate people. I ended up quitting one organization myself, because of a few people like that who kept putting off new members. This "prove it" attitude is just horrible. I'm not saying that people should be patting each other on the back for expressing exasperation in regards to this situation. But they certainly shouldn't be scolded or have their feelings put down. What should be done is a positive action: one where their emotions are channeled towards information on exactly what it is they can do. And I guess I just disagree with anyone who thinks that the type of response OMG gave is the proper and most successful method to motivate action.
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 14:36:23 (EST)
Poster: Boris the Spider <##>
To: Boris the Spider
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Attitude <##>Re: Attitude II
Message:
I feel compelled to add that exchange of viewpoints is refreshing if good manners are maintained,i.e., absence of rudeness, maliciousness, and borish behavior in general.
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 14:29:22 (EST)
Poster: Boris the Spider <##>
To: fetik3
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Attitude <##>Re: Attitude
Message:
And you did that quite eloquently. I personally have much more difficulty with OMG's words than Ralph's. Who knows maybe for some he is correct. I guess I read things a little mellower than you. Not that either are wrong, (as you already know) society is made up of many different attitudes, that is what makes the exchange of viewpoints so refreshing.
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 14:21:52 (EST)
Poster: fetik3 <##>
To: fetik3
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Attitude <##>Re: Attitude
Message:
Unless you were confused about the last line in my post... where I said "If you want to express that actions speak louder than words, then what you should do is help come up with an option of what could *BE* an action, rather than just standing there with your arms folded saying "prove it to me.. show me your sincere.. what do you plan on doing about it."" I didn't mean "you" as in Ralph.. I meant "you" as in everyone. My point was that someone like OMG doesn't motivate people to do something, and therefore shouldn't be the one to thank, as Ralph stated. The people that should be thanked are the ones that come up with viable solutions...
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 14:17:08 (EST)
Poster: goofygrape <##> [email protected]
To: dankitti
Subject: Re: Re: Re: something for friday <##>Re: thanks DK
Message:
thanks DK I thought you had seen my site fetik! I have some KISS stuff up there too plus a lot of the real rare stuff from my collection. LMK what you think of my site. PS I have always had ana's site linked in my links page. :) goofygrape
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 14:11:22 (EST)
Poster: fetik3 <##>
To: Boris the Spider
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Attitude <##>Re: Attitude
Message:
I was responding to Ralph's message because he stated that OMG should be the one to thank if we do some sort of action in regards to this situation. And I completely disagree with that statement.
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 14:09:59 (EST)
Poster: Bill <##>
To: Everyone
Subject: My lies
Message:
"If a president of the United States ever lied to the American people, he should resign." - Bill Clinton, 1974.
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 14:03:26 (EST)
Poster: Boris the Spider <##>
To: fetik3
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Attitude <##>Re: Attitude
Message:
Fetik3 your response appeared more appropriate to OMG than Ralph. The OMG post was presumptious, rude and not the best way to convey his message. I think Ralph WAS correct in what he said. We all need to examine what more we can do. If a crass post by OMG causes that, then perhaps there was a speck of redeeming value. I am not condoning OMG for targeting Ana or anyone, nor the condescending, chest pounding attitude, but Ralph just made a statement that maybe some of us would be motivated to do more. Seems as if your response was typed with a pissed off attitude at OMG not Ralph. ?????
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 13:57:44 (EST)
Poster: dankitti <##>
To: fetik3
Subject: Re: Re: something for friday <##>Re: something for friday
Message:
Do you have a webpage with all of your stuff on display? I'd love to see that! click here
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 13:16:25 (EST)
Poster: gagdOll <##> [email protected]
To: goofygrape
Subject: Re: Re: something for friday<##>"I wuv yOu this much"
Message:
gOfy, YOu knOw thOse littel white statues frOm the 60's and 70's that read "I lOve yOu this much" and has this man in a night shirt and his arms extened Out, and One with wOrld best mOther, and wOrld greatest husband, dO yOu knOw what Im talking abOut? Berry and sOmething company. I have maybe 20 Of them, are they wOrth anthing?
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 13:12:45 (EST)
Poster: Beacid <##>
To: dankitti
Subject: Re: Re: Re: WOMEN IN AFGHANISTAN(pt1)<##>Re: WOMEN IN AFGHANISTAN(pt1)
Message:
Thanks Dankitti With everyone posting all these URL's I have enough reading for the next month!!
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 13:03:49 (EST)
Poster: fetik3 <##>
To: goofygrape
Subject: Re: something for friday <##>Re: something for friday
Message:
Do you have a webpage with all of your stuff on display? I'd love to see that!
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 13:03:30 (EST)
Poster: Dave <##> [email protected]
To: mica
Subject: Re: Re: Re: something for friday<##>Re: Re:2 more
Message:
Oh man goofy. We had one of those Kraft veggie men when I was a tot. It was soft vinyl if I recall, and the head was attached so it could turn. We left it out in the sun and it's long gone. But boy what memories! Thanks for sharing! What kind of animal/bird is Fresh Up Freddy? He looks like a mutant cross between Woody Woodpecker and Foghorn Leghorn. Maybe a love child.
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 12:31:25 (EST)
Poster: Ralph <##>
To: asterisk
Subject: Re: Re: What Problem? <##>Re: What Problem?
Message:
We do...it's called a Superbowl party. Sorry
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 12:29:34 (EST)
Poster: Ralph <##>
To: fetik3
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Attitude <##>Re: Attitude
Message:
True....I have a guy here in Austin who has a cable TV show. He pisses me off so much that I am forced to do tons of research to prove him wrong. Although I can't stand the man or his ways, he does accomplish stirring the pot to the boiling point...and somtimes action is the result. And turns out, action is what he wanted...could be the same for OMG? No?
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 12:21:08 (EST)
Poster: mica <##>
To: spiral
Subject: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Hey everyone. I'm new here! <##>Re: Hey everyone. I'm new here!
Message:
i know u werent i was in a bad mood at the time It's all that inflammatory rap music you've been listening to. ;O)
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 12:13:12 (EST)
Poster: mica <##>
To: goofygrape
Subject: Re: Re: something for friday<##>Re: Re:2 more
Message:
Oh man goofy. We had one of those Kraft veggie men when I was a tot. It was soft vinyl if I recall, and the head was attached so it could turn. We left it out in the sun and it's long gone. But boy what memories! Thanks for sharing! What kind of animal/bird is Fresh Up Freddy? He looks like a mutant cross between Woody Woodpecker and Foghorn Leghorn.
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 12:02:48 (EST)
Poster: fetik3 <##>
To: Ralph
Subject: Re: Re: Attitude <##>Re: Attitude
Message:
I couldn't disagree with you more. There was absolutely NO superiority complexes displayed here *EXCEPT* for OMG who couldn't wait to point out that he has gotten his "hands dirty". OMG is not going to be the motivating force for myself, or anyone that I know to "pur our money where our mouth is." In Anarchy, of which some information was shared here, people posted about how they were calling various politicians/organizations/offices to get more information, and were going to be coming back to share with the rest of us what can be done. Now *THOSE* are the people we should thank. Not OMG, whose attitude is not productive whatsoever... (which I have seen too many times in political organizations... people like him constantly repulse and turn away new people who would have otherwise helped out. This happened all of the time at the University of Minnesota, with the organizations that I belonged to). If you want to express that actions speak louder than words, then what you should do is help come up with an option of what could *BE* an action, rather than just standing there with your arms folded saying "prove it to me.. show me your sincere.. what do you plan on doing about it."
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 11:54:18 (EST)
Poster: asterisk <##>
To: Moshed
Subject: Re: What Problem? <##>Re: What Problem?
Message:
Then if that's the case maybe the men should all go live in caves away from women. Why don't the men hide themselves away?
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 11:36:02 (EST)
Poster: Boris the Spider <##>
To: Ralph
Subject: Re: Re: Attitude <##>Re: Attitude
Message:
I've stayed out of this, just watching. But must agree with you. Caring is great and people should NOT be chastised for caring, but your point is well taken. Sometimes we need to act instead of speaking. Ana did well by promoting the topic which may have not reached so many people without her visible comments and audience. Sad state of affairs, suggest we all DO what we can and not react negatively to what level people choose to take action. Agree?
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 11:20:10 (EST)
Poster: Ralph <##>
To: rosedawson
Subject: Re: Attitude <##>Re: Attitude
Message:
I think its kinda sad that someone cant show concern for a cause or a group of people without getting pushed around and griped out, and their motives challanged? What is their motive you ask? their motive is they care, i think thats enough.. All that was being pointed out was this: (and I had an ex g-friend who did the same) People like to point out wrongs in the world, show concern, but do nothing. Then they cop a bigol'superiority complex like..look at me, I get mad cuz people get abused...I care. Who doesn't care? All he was asking was, what will you do besides feel, hurt and talk about it. In the next few days, this subject will fade away and be replaced by another.....OR.....someone will post on what they DID about it and when they do, you can thank OMG, cuz he's the one who said, "put your money where your mouth is" He's the one who fired you up.
Return to Index

Date: Fri, Jan 22, 1999 at 11:04:45 (EST)
Poster: goofygrape <##>
To: goofygrape
Subject: Re: something for friday<##>Re:2 more
Message:
New Page 2

here are two more

Above is a RARE find. Fresh Up Freddie was created by Walt Disney back in 1959 to advertise 7UP. This is about as nice of condition as I have ever seen.